[sgt]

> Russia didn't start the war, Russia did.

> If in March 2025, people still don’t understand that the war in Ukraine is a proxy war started by NATO, you are either biased or utterly stupid. All the documents are freely available.

I had a discussion with someone yesterday. I said Russia started the war, but his argument is completely the opposite. People actually believe this and it's getting harder to convince them otherwise.

[iszomer]

Would it have mattered anyway? I don't know all the specific nuances and context that led to it nor understand what it may lead to.

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG2dTDIGjaM

[sgt]

Another one spreading Russian propaganda. Well done.

[iszomer]

How would it be? Please constructively clarify.

[tim333]

The whole thing's a mess information wise. I mean the reality is complicated enough plus there are loads of false versions of everything. But it still remains that the 2022 invasion was on Putin's orders and the killing could stop tomorrow if he said to stop it.