[voidhorse]

Honestly, the fact that this is even a concept assessed with any seriousness shows me how much bullshit the label "engineering" is when applied to software.

You want to have an LLM help you crap out a script, sure, but you mean to tell me you'd seriously consider using an LLM for a production systems that affects real people that deals with real people's real data and call yourself a software "engineer"?

Engineering is about designing systems that serve society and provably meet well specified constraints. You don't want the god damn bridge to collapse under load. If you feel comfortable using an LLM to "engineer" a software system, you ought to feel comfortable letting civil engineers "vibe out" their bridge designs. God this hype cycle has just made a complete mockery of this whole industry and I have no respect for the clowns pushing this shit.

[martin-t]

I never had respect for programmers who call themselves software engineers without doing any actual engineering. This hype cycle and its buzzwords like "prompt engineers" just takes it to an extreme.

[xg15]

I mean, with the way things are going currently, I wouldn't be surprised if the "vibe-based engineering" paradigm gets applied to real-world engendering too.

The bridge collapsed? Oops, software error, can't do anything about it!

[xg15]

(autocorrect was vibes-based already: real-world engineering, not engendering)