[johnisgood]

Well, that is people dying. I personally want less people dying, by whatever means necessary.

[ben_w]

Short term, or medium term?

Because short term survival means surrender, followed by the medium term getting conscripted by Putin as cannon fodder to go after the next country.

[johnisgood]

> getting conscripted by Putin as cannon fodder to go after the next country.

Is it not just speculation? Does it have any merits? Would he do it? What makes you think that it is going to happen, that he wants to do it? Could he actually attempt to do it?

[ben_w]

> Is it not just speculation? Does it have any merits? Would he do it? What makes you think that it is going to happen, that he wants to do it? Could he actually attempt to do it?

Having already done it three times:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War

3. https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/russia-forces-ukrainians...

[johnisgood]

There are a lot of things in place that prevents Putin from doing what you think he wants.

[ben_w]

He is currently actively doing this with the Ukranian people in the regions of Ukraine he has annexed.

What is currently limiting him from going further is, specifically, the armed forces of Ukraine.

[johnisgood]

I am not talking about that.

I am referring to NATO, UN, ICC, Amnesty International & Human Rights Organizations, global backslash, fear of uncontrollable consequences (wrt. current allies like China and India, as they are Russia's key trade partners).

So there are those deterrents: legal charges, sanctions, political pressure, military retaliation, geopolitical fallout, and internal resistance within Russia itself.

Even Russian oligarchs and elites might resist, fearing total international isolation.

There are many reasons to not be afraid of what we might believe Putin would do ("getting conscripted by Putin as cannon fodder to go after the next country" and so forth).

[corinroyal]

Fewer