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by fhchl 482 days ago
Have been using proto mail for a few years now and highly recommend it. You will ever have a cute @pm.me address!
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Many people I know are switching away from them because of their alleged support of fascism.
In what way do they support fascism? I am using Protonmail, does it mean I indirectly support fascism? I do not care about the CEOs political views, nor his views on polygamy, or his favorite sexual position. If you want to argue against the use of Protonmail, you will have to try harder.
I think they are mixing up who is supporting fascism…
Yeah fascists love to say everyone else is fascist so
Can you provide any additional context for this? I haven't heard it, and a cursory search doesn't turn up anything obvious regarding their ties to fascism.
Their CEO made some comments in support of Trump. https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-tru...
Ah yes. Everything I don't like is fascism.

Ironically, we told you all for years that if you abused terms like fascist, Nazi, racist, etc then they would lose their power and their impact and people would ignore them in future. You were warned what would happen if you cried wolf.

Sometimes there actually is a wolf, though.

MAGA is a right-wing political movement that:

-seeks to return the nation to a mythical superior past, by

-empowering an extraordinary leader who represents the will of the people, in order to

-expel inferior/unworthy ethnicities, and

-expunge left/“Marxist” influences from art and culture.

These are all characteristics of Fascism specifically, not the authoritarian actions that people casually call fascist.

> expel inferior/unworthy ethnicities

Is this happening? Or a stated goal?

I know they're deporting people who aren't here legally (that's a whole other debate), but I'm not aware of them actively targeting anyone based on race of ethnicity regardless of their legal status.

The boy who cried wolf is only a meaningful story because he is eventually eaten by a wolf.

However, your third point is a bit breathless. They aren't expelling anyone based on ethnicity. They want to deport illegal aliens. It isn't their fault so many of those aliens are from one country. The Nazis were expelling and killing Jews that had been in Europe for centuries lawfully. And, yknow, the whole killing them thing! The human experiments. The slave labour camps.

You are forgetting that fascist regimes go to war with their neighbours for territory, ignore the law, suspend democracy and have secret police to enforce political orthodoxy. Trump is an isolationist and he hasn't done any of the rest, yet at least.

Also don't forget that for all the stick Trump gets about immigration, all the Democratic presidents I can remember claim that they want to control the border too, and claim they can do so better. Hardly illustrative of fascism...

Actually I think the message that people should get is that folks LIKE fascism.

Germans loved Hitler until Stalingrad.

What I’ve heard is that hosting in Switzerland concerns right-leaning people.