[Terr_]

> each passing release makes Altman’s confidence look more aspirational than visionary

As an LLM cynic, I feel that point passed long go, perhaps even before Altman claimed countries would start wars to conquer the territory around GPU datacenters, or promoting the dream of a 7 T-for-trillion dollar investment deal, etc.

Alas, the market can remain irrational longer than I can remain solvent.

[chefandy]

That $7 trillion dollar ask pushed me from skeptical to full-on eye-roll emoji land— the dude is clearly a narcissist with delusions of grandeur— but it’s getting worse. Considering the $200 pro subscription was significantly unprofitable before this model came out, imagine how astonishingly expensive this model must be to run at many times that price.

[freehorse]

Or, the model is nowhere as expensive as in the api pricing and they want to pump the user value of their pro subscription artificially?

[DonHopkins]

Sell an unlimited premium enterprise subscription to every CyberTruck owner, including a huge red ostentatious swastika-shaped back window sticker [but definitely NOT actually an actual swastika, merely a Roman Tetraskelion Strength Symbol] bragging about how much they're spending.

[j_maffe]

Most people can evaluate whether the model improvements (or lack thereof) are worth the price tag

[chefandy]

Considering that’s the exact opposite of their strategy to date, and they haven’t done anything to indicate that was the case, and they talked about how huge and expensive the model was to run, that is the less reasonable assumption by a mile.

[freehorse]

It is true that this does not seem to be their strategy, but the previous strategy to date was actually showing measurable improvements and specific applications, not "vibes". What I said is far-fetched, but still I fail to understand the whole point here, because they do not really explain it.

But maybe we just hit the point that the improvement of performance hit the slowing down part of a logistic curve, while the cost keeps increasing exponentially.

[chefandy]

Well, we could ‘maybe’ ourselves to a lot of admirable explanations but lacking specific evidence that any of them are true, Occam’s Razor is the most reasonable way to evaluate this. In the very recent past Altman had shown no meaningful attempt to make this company sustainable. He has worked to increase its growth rate, but that’s a very different goal.