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by SteveNuts 477 days ago
> The Go crowd, like the Rust crowd, likes to advertise the language their software is written in.

Probably because end users appreciate that usually that means a single binary + config file and off you go. No dependency hell, setting up third party repos, etc.
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0x457 477 days ago
> Probably because end users appreciate that usually that means a single binary + config file and off you go. No dependency hell, setting up third party repos, etc.

Until you have to use some plugin (e.g. cloudflare to manage DNS for ACME checks), now it's exactly "dependency hell, setting up third party repos, etc."

I also fully expect to see a few crashes from unchecked `err` in pretty much any Go software. Also, nginx qualifies for `single binary + config`, it's just NGINX is for infra people and Caddy is for application developers.

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airstrike 477 days ago
Fortunately I don't think any of that applies to Rust ;-)
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0x457 477 days ago
Actually, all of it applies to rust. The only stable ABI in Rust is C-ABI and IMO at that point it stops being rust. Even dynamically loading rustlib in rust application is unsafe and only expected to work when both compiled with the same version. In plugins context, it's the same as what Caddy making you do.

However, Rust Evangelical Strike Force successfully infiltrated WASM committee and when WASM Components stabilize, it can be used for plugins in some cases (see Zed and zellij). (Go can use them as well, rust is just the first (only?) to support preview-2 components model.

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airstrike 477 days ago
Yeah, I don't really do dynamic loading in my corner of Rust. And I can always target some MSRV, cargo package versions, and be happy with it. Definitely beats the dependency hell I've had to deal with elsewhere
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0x457 477 days ago
Don't get me wrong, I love rust and use it almost every day. Doing `cargo run` in a project it handles everything is good. This gets lost once you start working in a plugin context. Because now you're not dealing in your neatly organized workplace, you're working across multiple workplaces from different people.

IIRC it's more than just MSRV or even matching version exactly. It also requires flags that were used to compile rustc match (there is an escape hatch tho).

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