[nicpottier]

Who is your market? In my area takeoffs are done by lumber yards, it's just a service they provide in order to win the business. So you are going to be selling B2B into a market that is very slow and resistant to change. I imagine many are using some software for their process but I've never seen it.

On the other side, architects are using Revit more and more and takeoffs like square footage of flooring are accurate and take no time at all. That's another industry slow to change and that used to take more effort so many architects aren't providing that information to their clients, but technically there's nothing preventing it. There's a bit more hand waving when it comes to calculating number of studs etc, but that is pretty straightforward as well.

Source: I'm funemployed as a drafter for a local architect after 25 years in software.

[rooppal]

We've seen that suppliers do a ton of bidding and cost estimation, and are keen to be accurate (estimate too high and they lose to competitors). GCs and suppliers don't want to be too low because that potentially costs them tens of thousands of dollars.

[chrisgarand]

We do supplying to contractors, and do takeoffs for single family homes. Not tracked, one off's for framing material. You mentioned your co-founder has built tract homes so my words might not apply to your target customer.

Here are things to consider:

Experienced builders don't care about the takeoffs on a big picture basis, the takeoffs are usually wrong, even if perfectly done. In our experience half of drawings we receive, are heavily revised by the order is approved (heavily revised meaning over 10% has changed). EWP, structural metal need to be accurate but framing lumber, and sheet good can be off on counts at the lift quantity (+-1 lift for an average house).

Suppliers aren't responsible for the takeoff so the amount the quote is negligible (see drawing revisions, and trades can misallocate the materials - This can't be reasonably traced). Over? The customer ends up paying less, under? The customer pays more. This has been universal where I am (Ontario, Canada).

A large minority of plans are missing key elements (like sheer walls), pointing out, and showing these differences would be a big value add for the consumer (contractors using the materials) by the supplier.

Good customers understand that lumber is a commodity, a lower price this week can flip next week, and they'll contact their preferred vendor about the differences.

There's always a preferred vendor.

Not great customers will shoot drawing off to multiple suppliers, causing them all to do the same takeoff, wasting time, and money, only to deal with the same issues above. They'll still go back to their preferred vendor to get the lowest price.

Summary of the above is: EWP, and structural metal are key items because they rarely change, framing lumber, and sheathing requirements change all the time. What you're looking at is helping suppliers capture the bad customers (which are often the biggest, to be clear), but saving suppliers the time handling them is great. Also, accuracy, and pricing isn't that important (with caveats).

This isn't a statistically significant sample size, consider it anecdotal.

[patrickhogan1]

I love the idea you guys are doing. I also think your name should have takeoff in it.

As a side point - sometimes the shady lumberyards do bid too low on purpose to win business. Then later have the contractor submit a change order. This often hurts their reputation unless the contractor is in on it to win a bid. The supplier doesn’t tend to lose money though as the bid is for the quantity of materials.

You could turn this into a selling point. As in, helping a contractor or competing supplier verify the takeoff.

[chrisgarand]

Hey Patrick, this is rare, it does happen, but usually (almost always) it's that something was missed in the takeoff, the updated plan wasn't submitted to the yard, or the drawings were missing elements.

I agree with your point, having a second, impartial source is important to confirm the ballpark.