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by kvakerok 482 days ago
In your car you have an expectation of privacy. Public transport is by definition a public space and thus has no expectation of privacy. Whole different ruleset applies. Anyone can monitor you on a bus. Without your consent too.
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A couple days after that United Health CEO was assasinated they has video of the suspect from a deluge of sources and none of them were from busses or cars.

Nearly every business has cameras. More and more residential homes have porch cameras pointed at the street. Even if your vehicle isn't monitoring you, it has a license plate hanging off the back so it can be easily identified. We're all being tracked by our phones, and everybody else's phone will be used against you should you be caught acting weird in pubic. There are records of me in more databases than what's even knowable, the plot is so lost. We're back to being naked all the time, except now without the privilege of knowing who is looking at you.

I felt like people rallying against surveillance and tracking were beating a dead horse 20 years ago and I feel even more that way today.

Good thing is it is illegal to have video footage of public land where I live. You can only monitor exactly the entrance or your private land.
in practice, in a car your motions are tracked and stored forever (you, today, already inplemented) by both automated license plate readers, the car’s phone home gps, and typically the phone in your pocket. In a bus, if you pay with a card its tracked where you got on, and they can run facial recognition after the fact, but its at least not greppable
> In your car

There you said it! But, if you cannot control the software, then it's not your hardware.

Jailbreak your Tesla
Possibly the point is that an individual can not be as easily tracked by first identifying the bus, however most cars are registered to their owners. Nowadays most buses and public transport are full of CCTV though so same problem really.
>In your car you have an expectation of privacy.

Though, I can freely film you from a public area.

> In your car you have an expectation of privacy.

Less than some people assume. I've seen people eat boogers while waiting for a green light.

Privacy in public transport systems is poorer than it has to be, and can be enhanced. The following describes a privacy-preserving ticketing system.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-20810-7_...

No doubt many people are aware that card passes are potential trackers, and that may be why a third or so of the ridership pays no fare.