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by VOIPThrowaway 484 days ago
"Personal liberty" is not exclusively a right-wing idea.
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It remains to be seen what he means by it in practice. It is possible many will be pleasantly surprised at what emerges.

This article does suggest Shipley wanted a more balanced, "both sides" approach to the opinions section, which I agree with Bezos is shortsighted and sort of shallow:

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/26/nx-s1-5309725/jeff-bezos-wash...

On the other hand, it's difficult for me to imagine David Shipley leaving over that alone if there wasn't something pointed or questionable about what Bezos was suggesting. Also, if Bezos' recent interventions are any guide, he isn't exactly pushing for greater freedom of speech, or more rigorous critique, at the Washington Post — there's a "liberty for me but not for thee" kind of sense to his actions.

If Bezos wanted to turn the Washington Post into some kind of Reason Magazine with a primary news arm attached to it, it wouldn't be the worst thing in my opinion for me personally. But I'm skeptical of his vision without more evidence: for one thing, if he wanted to come out swinging, he could have made his vision clear.

Perhaps you should re-familiarize yourself with the Pledge of Allegiance.
Ironic you bring that up, because there was a time in America where the Supreme Court had ruled that children could be forced to recite it.
Can you be more specific? Do you mean the history or the content?
"With _liberty_ and justice for all"? This should be pretty bipartisan IMO.
I’m still not sure what you mean. Do you mean that Bezos’ definition of Liberty aligns with the pledge of allegiance?
Of course you aren't. But if you weren't deliberately dense, you'd see that Bezos didn't give a definition of personal liberty. He just told them that it matters, and they should write about it every now and then. One would think that in the US writing about personal liberty would not raise any controversy, but here we are.
Say more?
Thinking of social anarchists. Extremely "left" in many regards by North American standards, and pushing towards being about as pro personal liberty as you can get.

Arguably social anarchists have a different read on what personal liberty is and should be compared to, say, Ayn Rand. It might not be the best comparison, but I think the gist of it is true. Heaps of leftists value personal liberty.

As an anarchist, we are for absolute personal liberty. But when we hear "personal liberty " followed by "free markets" pushed by a billionaire, it's clearly right wing propaganda. There are no right wing anarchists.
Hopefully my comment doesn't make it appear as though I disagree.

This entire situation reads to me as extremely corrupt and—almost ironically yet not surprisingly at all—more likely to be harmful to personal liberties of many while beneficial to very few.

Free market coming from Bezos' mouth is a laughable concept. He will do everything in his power to nullify competitors while squashing the liberties of his own employees. Nothing about this is sincere.

The combination of “personal liberty and free markets” as a description of an ideological orientation is not merely exclusively right-wing, its pretty much a defining slogan of the American pro-big-business corporate capitalist Right (one of many segments of the American Right.)

It’s no less of a clear, specific ideological marker in the US today than “Blood and Soil” in 1930s Germany.

But its interesting how those trying to sell this as not ideological are just ignoring the “free markets” part.

What billionaires mean by "personal liberty" usually is, though.
Personal liberty for me, but not for thee.
Definitely not, but it's possible to focus exclusively on liberties that the right wing prefers.

I guess we'll see whether Bezos is willing to promote the liberty of a business to hire based on DEI criteria if that's what it prefers, or of individuals to marry people of the same sex. Or any of the other liberties that the right wing doesn't like. Given the recent closeness of Bezos to Trump, I suspect we won't see anything like that, but maybe he'll surprise me.

>"Personal liberty" is not exclusively a right-wing idea.

I wonder if the approved op-eds on personal liberty will include Trans and Abortion rights? Will it include the right to organize?

Or how about immigrant rights, what with the DoJ going after AOC for hosting a webinar?
the irony of censorship in the name of "personal liberty". Grade a doublespeak bullshit