[KirinDave]

I do not see how you can simultaneously care about making programming better but not care about how people use what you're making to solve that problem.

Programming is a verb describing what people do with programming systems, and we're nowhere near the point where it can be done automatically yet. You cannot remove people from the equation and claim to be interacting with it.

[angelbob]

I think he's saying he wants to make programming better for newbies.

It really kinda sucks for them right now.

Serious hard-core engineers that need serious tools are actually pretty well served by current tools. No, no, they're not perfect. But we're way better off than somebody who's just beginning in terms of what tools are aimed at us.