[snapplebobapple]

That stuff is mostly fixed on the AMD stuff (I've owned every model of framework 13 and the framework 16 now), which makes me cautiously optimistic for the future. I think you still have to approach them as an ideals company working hard to become an actual company, which is why I don't buy their stuff for work anymore but buy it all day long for personal use. For work I can get a lenovo with similar specs and often a better OLED screen with a 3 year next day on site support contract for the price of the assembled frameworks usually. For home I prefer to self support and I greatly appreciate the speed at which their parts ship and the reasonable prices, plus with the DIY discount it's closer to price competitive. I think with the 16 I have now and I hope with the 13 refresh they just announced the problems stay away broadly and I can say they are an ideals company that is also an actual company but I need another year of use to feel comfortable with that statement.

[rwky]

Well now I've given up, they've told me I need to buy a new mainboard because it's "out of warranty" which is crap since I've been complaining about it since I bought it.