[Doches]

As someone who lived in the sud-ouest during the yellow vests protests, "very very low tolerance for social violence" is...not my general impression of the French people.

(Low tolerance for fascism, yes, obviously. But "social violence" is pretty much what passes for entertainment on a Saturday morning)

[black_puppydog]

Social violence describes the gutting of social security, healthcare systems etc to the detriment of primarily the most vulnerable. Not the fact that people protest, however violently. It's just not the right vocabulary.

[oooyay]

I don't view political organization as violence, I view it as a healthy democracy - even if the country or people don't agree with the conclusions of that group of people. It is healthy that they feel comfortable expressing their wants and needs to the people with power to change it.

What Elon is doing in the US isn't organizing or demanding the system to be better; it's taking control of the system and saying he can do better.

[_bin_]

To be clear, the french regularly engage in violence, of which the yellow vest riots are an excellent example. Damage to property and injury to persons is not “political organization”, it is definitionally violence.

[euroderf]

> "very very low tolerance for social violence" is...not my general impression of the French people.

"French people" includes the French police, I presume.

For "social violence" it might be informative to substitute "direct action". For example, there is José Bové.

[mytailorisrich]

A rose by any other name...

By the way, "Action Directe" was a famous French terrorist organisation in the 80s [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Directe