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by hackit2 479 days ago
Kind of ironic that DeepSeek is more Open than ChatGPT
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They do it for their own reasons, but OpenAI are straight up liars and they are neither open nor give a fuck about humanity.
It would be hilarious if this scenario played out.

OpenAI starts as a nonprofit, aiming to benefit all humanity. Eventually, they discover a path to AGI and engage in intense internal debates: Should they abandon their original mission and chase profit, knowing it could bring generational wealth? They ultimately decide, "To hell with humanity—let’s go for the money."

As they pivot to prioritizing profit, DeepSeek emerges. Staying true to OpenAI’s original vision, DeepSeek open-sources everything, benefiting humanity and earning global admiration. Unintentionally, this move tanks OpenAI’s valuation. In the end, OpenAI fails to become the hero or secure the massive profits they chased. Instead, they leave behind a legacy rebranded as "ClosedAI"

Admittedly I'm a sideline observer but it feels like the first half of your scenario is already happening (sans the agi).
"I don't want to live in a world where someone else is making the world a better place better than we are"

- Silicon Valley Season 2

OpenAyyyyI swear babe I’m gonna open it up any day. Yeah for that grated good or whatever it is you keep yappin about.
Well, they do give us a great free tool to use, but that's where it ends and probably has some agenda behind it.
> Kind of ironic that DeepSeek is more Open than ChatGPT

Not ironic at all.

You've simply be lied to by OpenAI.

Nothing ironic about being naive.

Now. It’s amazing to me that everyone is like fuck OpenAI deepseek is the savior, when OpenAI’s papers and code jump started an AI revolution just a few years ago. Let’s wait the same number of years and see what deepseek does.
I thought the papers that jump started the revolution came from Google?
Indeed. And the papers were about doing better translation of char sequences, essentially the tech emerged as linguistics improvement for language. Then someone realised the parrot learns enough ZIP and JPEG alongside and can spit back hazy memories of it all.

the one still super useful thing OpenAI ever released must’ve been Whisper. But they could’ve been much more open for sure.

Hinton. And if you'd ask himself probably Schmidthuber.