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by Maxatar
481 days ago
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Everyone can make or lose money depending on whether the value of the stock goes up or down and whether the participants own the stock or are borrowing it (short/negative ownership). You mention two factors that can introduce new capital into the system, new investors and dividends, but seem to imply they are negligible or can be ignored... on the contrary those two factors are quite significant contributors and according to some theories dividends are the ultimate and total source of value in the stock market: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dividend_discount_model |
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I didn't mean to imply that those two factors are negligible. Only that they're not part of "trading," i.e. trading is zero-sum but these make the system as a whole not zero-sum. I was responding to "Pension funds, banks, HFT firms can all make money while trading with each other." Which suggests that you don't need other things for everyone to make money, it can happen purely by trading.