You aren't watching politics right now are you? It's happening in real time. It is actually quite dramatic - the US/CDN relationship is superseding most other political issues.
I thought this comment was bluster and looked it up.
Sigh.
Even Canadians dislike us now. How bad do you have to screw up that the Canadians dislike you? All I can say is that, (maybe?), this will only last the four years.
I'm sure conservative Canadian parties did not think Trump and Vance would go off the deep end. Neither did a whole lot of conservative Americans. But buyer's remorse won't get anyone anywhere at this point. Just have to try make the best of what you can and live with the consequences with respect to the rest.
Unfortunately for conservative Canadian parties, it's looking like that probably means absorbing some impact at the polls at this point.
> How bad do you have to screw up that the Canadians dislike you?
You just have to ignore a long standing positive relationship, threaten to annex the country, threaten to destroy its economy, and make a bunch of unfounded claims about fentanyl trafficking. Easy-peasy.
I would say that this feels like a significant rupture in the relationship completely borne out of a very disrespectful position. Trying to brow-beat population into submission typically doesn't really work that well for long-term relationships.
Even if most Canadians do recognize that the population isn't the administration it does give people pause and they certainly look to spend their money elsewhere until the people in power look to build upon relationships with their allies instead of trying to dominate them.
It'll die out and people will remember that 9 years of Liberal rule has destroyed our quality of life and we've lost ground to all our peer countries...
True question is how cons respond. Agree could just be a short bounce but I think cons have been considered MAGA lite so gen public eyes them suspiciously.
I'm not telling you any of my political preferences I'm pointing out how it will play out in the national campaign and how it has already roiled the polls. Canadians don't trust him to support the Canadian interests at least at the current moment - it's a big problem for him and the national conservatives.
Poilievre very consciously mimics Trump in slogans, style, etc. Just look at this picture and tell me it doesn't remind you of something: [0].
The question is whether Canadians want to elect someone who models himself after Trump at a time when Trump is threatening to end Canada's existence as a sovereign nation.
It's Poilievre in front of Canadian flags... Every leader of every country stands in front of their country's flag...
I guess it would be jarring to Canadians, who have a current leader who called us a post-national state and said immigrants are more Canadian than people born in Canada...
Sovereignty? There is no Canadian party that supports joining the US. If you think there is then you've really been drinking the Kool-Aid...
Edit - To add to this, read Carney's book or listen to his various speeches prior to him starting this political run... Carney doesn't believe in nations, wants to pursue a globalist future, he's been in Trudeau's ear for years and Trudeau's "post-nationalism" is very much something Carney believes in. But yeah, sure, Carney now decides he's a nationalist...
I didn't say that. It is the USA making the threats. This is causing a huge sudden swing in polls. You seem to think this momentum will "die out" why would Canadians begin to care less about sovereignty as time goes on?
Implying sovereignty is an issue at all is implying that one party cares more about it than the other...
This is a popular leftist talking point at the moment but it's far from the truth and as more information about both parties' and leaders' beliefs is disseminated yes, the momentum will die out.
The President of the United States of America has repeatedly threatened to annex Canada. He calls the Prime Minister of Canada the "governor of Canada." He refuses to rule out the use of force or massive economic coercion. He's repeated this over and over again, and when asked if he's serious, he says he is.
This isn't a "leftist talking point." It's the President of the US making open threats, and Canadians are taking those threats seriously.
It's very obvious the constituents feel like one party values the issue more than another as the polls are showing??? Not sure what your trying to say here I feel the goalpost keeps moving...
Sigh.
Even Canadians dislike us now. How bad do you have to screw up that the Canadians dislike you? All I can say is that, (maybe?), this will only last the four years.
I'm sure conservative Canadian parties did not think Trump and Vance would go off the deep end. Neither did a whole lot of conservative Americans. But buyer's remorse won't get anyone anywhere at this point. Just have to try make the best of what you can and live with the consequences with respect to the rest.
Unfortunately for conservative Canadian parties, it's looking like that probably means absorbing some impact at the polls at this point.