[animal-husband]

Text generated prior to a decision to “explain” it is reasoning for the relevant intents and purposes.

Text generated after a decision to “explain” it is largely nonsense.

[Kinrany]

The true test would be seeing the behavior change depending on the presence of reasoning

[2099miles]

The words thinking and reasoning used here are imprecise. It’s just generating text like always. If the text is after “ai-thoughts:” then it’s “thinking” and if it’s after “ai-response” then it’s “responding” not “thinking” but it is always a big ole model choosing the most likely next token potentially with some random sampling

[animal-husband]

That is what was observed - o1 family models performed the “cheat”, non-reasoning models didn’t.