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Speaking as a CS/Math dual major from the late 1980s, the explanations in the textbook were ... uselessly bad where I went (SFU). So while I know the math involved, I didn't know the terms until I retook it from a teacher who actually taught worth anything, years later. (I still don't use the terms, they're not very ... well, they're awkward and while my embedded work sometimes calls for the math, the terms ... meh. There are clearer ways to put things!).