[trinix912]

I, on the other hand (as an EU citizen), would like to not be drafted to fight in a conflict by two random governments of countries I don't live in and share nothing ideologically with. Sure, we can all do taxes together, share the currency, etc. I know that NATO already is that way, but the EU is not a military alliance and should never be.

[preisschild]

I'm also an EU citizen and heavily in favor of an EU-military.

We could be a lot stronger with the same amount of money invested through economies-of-scale.

We can either take the chance to become a superpower or we will be taken over by aggressive countries like Russia.

[mopsi]

> I, on the other hand (as an EU citizen), would like to not be drafted to fight in a conflict by two random governments of countries I don't live in and share nothing ideologically with.

... because that worked out so well for Europe when Poland was invaded in 1939 and everyone looked the other way?

After the war, top German generals like Franz Halder, the Chief of the Army General Staff, revealed that their actual strength had been much smaller than the British and the French had feared. Anglo-French forces could have outnumbered them 1:5. The generals speculated that a well-coordinated allied attack from France could have defeated Germany in just a few weeks.

Imagine Europe if Hitler had been hanged in 1939!