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by xienze 482 days ago
> Right now there is an electric denier in a cabinet position.

There's a whole lot more than one. Remember that when Republicans win, the results aren't "denied" but the Democrats sure do cast a whoooole lot of doubt on the proceedings (i.e., "well yes they won but voter suppression, I'm just saying...", "well yes they won but Russian Facebook propaganda, I'm just saying...", "well yes they won, but hanging chads, I'm just saying...").

I'd say "election denial" comes in degrees...
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JustExAWS 482 days ago
Newt Gingrich outright chastised the Republican governor of GA for making voting more convenient in minority neighborhoods was going to increase the chance of Democrats winning. He said the quiet part out loud.

Not to mention that in Texas, student IDs issued by public colleges aren’t legal IDs to vote. But gun permits are.

Of course there is Russian interference on social media. Not that I think it makes a difference.

Complaining about any of those things though and saying that’s why Trump won is crazy looking at the numbers. He won fair and square. Both of those things can be true.

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xienze 482 days ago
> Not to mention that in Texas, student IDs issued by public colleges aren’t legal IDs to vote. But gun permits are.

I'm going to take a wild guess here and assume one of those IDs can be obtained by non-citizens and the other can't, not sure what your point is here.

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xp84 482 days ago
The ID presented when voting doesn’t have to itself prove citizenship if things are being operated in a sane fashion. Voters have to already be on the voter rolls to vote, and if they’re letting noncitizens register that’s the real bug. You should be able to vote with any ID that proves you look like a certain person named on the rolls. Someone who isn’t a partisan hack would probably want to just give poll workers pictures of all acceptable* “local” IDs issued by trustworthy institutions to be sure that people aren’t DIYing IDs. Banning school IDs is just trying to suppress the young vote, as people 18-22 are far less likely than older people to drive than they used to be, especially in urban areas.

And I say this as an independent who has walked away from the Democratic Party because I hate the DNC, not an “immigrants rights activist” or something.

*acceptable should mean they are real cards with at least a basic security feature, not a laminated thing you could print at home.

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JustExAWS 481 days ago
https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/handgun-licensing/faq/appl...

> Note: Individuals who are not US Citizens will need to provide their lawful presence documentation to the Department prior to renewal of their LTC.

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ncallaway 482 days ago
> I'm going to take a wild guess here and assume one of those IDs can be obtained by non-citizens

100% not relevant. Think about it: a driver's license is a valid form of ID for voting in Texas (https://www.votetexas.gov/voting/need-id.html).

A Texas driver's license can be obtained by non-citizens (https://www.dps.texas.gov/sites/default/files/documents/driv...).

So, I'm not sure what your point is, here.

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