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by rofrol 486 days ago
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> Trump didn't even get half the popular vote. That's not a mandate.

I think you confuse USA with some other country. Read about electoral votes.

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I didn't say he wasn't elected. I said he didn't have a mandate.

If he did not secure even half of the popular vote then it is obvious that the median voter does not align with his views.

"Not even half" is being intentionally misleading: He did get more than his main opponent, by over 2 million voters.
No.

We are explicitly talking about a mandate - the will of the median voter. Someone who did not receive even half of the popular vote is not representative of the median voter.

Just winning is not enough to receive a mandate.

Mandates would come from popularity, not from weighted numbers.
I just had to check since I am admittedly sick. Even wikipedia has mandate[1] as

"mandate is a perceived legitimacy to rule through popular support. Mandates are conveyed through elections, in which voters choose political parties and candidates based on their own policy preferences."

Even if we play around with concepts here, in a very, very practical sense, if the mandate is conveyed through elections, at least at the very beginning of the administration, that administration has a mandate to govern. Now.. this perception may change, but you can't honestly tell me this administration has no mandate for one simple reason:

If it does not have a mandate, neither of the previous administrations did.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_(politics)

> If it does not have a mandate, neither of the previous administrations did.

I would agree with this. I think the last time an administration had a clear mandate was Obama's first term.

Every election since then the margin has been to small too clearly say that their policies reflect the will of the median voter.