[alaithea]

Tens of thousands of people are now out of work, with more to join them soon. The job market is already tight. That is going to have ripple effects throughout communities all over the country. We will probably see an uptick in housing foreclosures. At the same time, grant money for community support programs has been turned off, so these folks will have a harder time getting help.

Farmers who produced food that was sent abroad by USAID are not getting paid, and will have stock piling up that they don't have a buyer for.

Scientific and health agencies have been muzzled during a time when we are fighting bird flu (millions of flocks dying), there has been human transmission and there is a high risk of another pandemic (bird flu or anything else) coming along. People will die who wouldn't otherwise have to.

The agency which protects Americans from predatory bank fees has been shuttered, so we can expect our banking (like $35 late fees) to get more expensive.

I could go on and on, but our country is not Twitter; it's not even comparable, on almost any level.

[logicalmind]

To add to your list, Federal Spending represents 23% of GDP. If you cut Federal Spending you cut GDP. And if you take just a sliver of any of that spending and think about it critically, you can imagine the ripple effects it will cause.

Cutting funding for biotech results in loss of jobs and loss of patent filing. Loss of patent filing means loss of people needed for filing patents. On and on. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out (some pun intended).

[fallingknife]

Not really since their plan is to cut taxes too. It shifts spending to individuals rather than cutting GDP, though there are always costs associated with such a transition.

[logicalmind]

Those tax cuts will heavily favor the wealthy. So I guess it depends on your belief in whether trickle down economics works.

Additionally, the Federal Government is the largest employer in the country. If you both lay off a significant portion of that workforce and cut things like unemployment and other social programs, you are going to have significant increase in unemployment unless there is somehow new jobs for everyone. Add inflation to the mix due to tariffs and a perfect storm of economic despair is on the horizon.

[silisili]

Not sure how true it is, but a few housing focused accounts I follow(that are admittedly more doom and gloom) are claiming house prices in and around DC are taking a beating as a result. It makes logical sense, but it's not something I would have immediately connected.

[flutas]

> Tens of thousands of people are now out of work, with more to join them soon.

...and?

This is such a common thing in tech we have entire websites built around it to track the layoffs.[0] In fact, using that site you can see in February (only 20 days so far) we've had 10,950 tech workers laid off. Expanding it further, in 2024 alone there were over 152,000 tech workers laid off. 2023? Only a mere 264,000 layoffs.

Where is the outrage and emotional blackmail over this for the lowly tech worker, yet we're supposed to bend over and take it while saying this is a bad thing for government workers?

Personally, I think they're just finally experiencing the America they run and they don't like it when it bites them like it bites the average American, and I have to assume that's why it seemingly has such high approval ratings among independent voters.[1]

[0]: https://layoffs.fyi/

[1]: https://www.axios.com/2025/02/14/arizona-voters-trump-elon-m...

[blharr]

In tech, you get absurd salaries that mean even if you get laid off, you would still take home a lot more than your average government employee.

The number one attraction for working for the government is stability, and that's baked into the salary.

If you want to attract skilled workers to work for the government, have the same experiences getting laid off, and get paid less, they're just going to turn to private industry.

[gottorf]

> In tech, you get absurd salaries that mean even if you get laid off, you would still take home a lot more than your average government employee.

Apparently, as of late 2023, the average federal employee made over $101k[0]. "Tech" is vague, but assuming software engineers, the BLS estimated in 2023 a median of $132k[1]. That's not a big enough difference that you wouldn't be worried about layoffs in the private sector. Not everyone gets paid $400k working at a FAANG, and plus, federal jobs have a lot of benefits beyond that headline salary figure.

> The number one attraction for working for the government is stability, and that's baked into the salary.

The longstanding deal was that career civil servants don't get fired every time the White House changes hands and in return, they behave apolitically and implement the decisions made by political appointees (who are responsible to the electorate) in a neutral and expert manner.

That was the whole premise behind stability in government jobs. Back in the days it used to be the case that everyone did get fired between administrations, and they realized this was pretty inefficient.

But career civil servants broke this rule with Trump's first term, with a lot of opposition to political decisions brought on by people who are supposed to be neutral to the politics of it all. What is being reaped now was sown back then. Of course, it sucks for the people who did their jobs as they were supposed to; there is certainly an element of the whole class being punished for the misbehavior of a few.

[0]: https://www.fedsmith.com/2024/01/22/average-federal-salary-t...

[1]: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/...

[TomK32]

> But career civil servants broke this rule with Trump's first term, with a lot of opposition to political decisions brought on by people who are supposed to be neutral to the politics of it all. What is being reaped now was sown back then.

Well, you can't enter a consistent, efficient and well-maintained system with the intention of throwing things around. Resistance is the only natural reaction to such a disruptive approach and now this resistance is missing we see the chaos Trump 2.0 and Musk cause as they follow the Project 2025 playbook.

[hooverd]

I feel bad for tech workers they were laid off. And civil servants. It's the same people orchestrating both!

[jarsin]

Exactly! Do they not realize they all sat around (poorly) administrating systems like h1b that have caused millions of us to be laid off with no notice or reason.

I can't imagine crying on linkedin like some of these .gov workers showing up in my feed. I would never be hired again.

[nobankai]

I can't imagine a talented employee crying to HN about how they can't compete with the ESL labor pool.

What's the matter? The market feeling a little too free for your tastes?

[hooverd]

You do realize it's your bosses that hate you and want to replace you and not random civil servants?

[drstewart]

> I could go on and on

Could you go on and on with any actual examples since all of your statements were riddled with "probablies" and "mights" and "wills"?

[alaithea]

All my statements started with a concrete fact, all of which are easily found in current news articles. Perhaps you should go do some reading.

[drstewart]

Maybe the sky will fall too!

[jodrellblank]

https://old.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/ has examples.

So does https://old.reddit.com/r/Project2025Award/

[drstewart]

lol right

[jodrellblank]

sorry, you wanted people to spoon-feed you examples in reply to your low-effort low quality dismissals?

"If we let go of this it will fall"

"oh yeah 'will' I want real examples of things falling"

"here are examples of things really falling"

"lol right"