[scarface_74]

Like others have said, you have to wait for a position to open up in your target country. Compensation is often tied to location even domestically with FAANG. I don’t think most tech companies are going to let you keep San Francisco (hypothetically) compensation when you move to a country where they are paying much less.

Even the mid size cloud consulting company I work for (full time) hires from 6 different countries and the compensation structure is different for each. When I did work for Amazon remotely, comp was also based on location. I’ve seen the same from talking to people at Google.

Besides, most FAANG jobs require you to be in the office these days.

Why do you want to leave? I understand if you think America is in a long term decline. But my first thought is that as long as I am working and not dependent on the government for part of my livelihood - social security and Medicare - I should be fine.

I have seriously thought about and talked to my wife about moving to either Costa Rica or Panama once we retire.

My second thought is what is going to happen in Europe once they have to beef up their military spending as the US has shown to be an unreliable partner.

[jijijijij]

> My second thought is what is going to happen in Europe once they have to beef up their military spending as the US has shown to be an unreliable partner.

I don't understand, what do you think may happen? Do you think Europe will collapse because they have to increase their military spending?

[scarface_74]

All of the EU countries combined have a lower GDP and a higher tax burden than the US. If they have to then spend more, tax rates will go up.

The other issue is that it is going to be a painful process to decouple their economies from exporting and importing between the US. But that’s also going to be necessary.

How much of the worlds pharmaceutical discoveries come from research and the approval process of studies done by the US? Maybe things will turn around. But right now, there is an anti-vaxxer with no medical background in charge of HHS. They are already purging and editing medical studies.

It’s going to take 5-10 years to see the fallout of the US losing its place on the world stage.

I’m more concerned about the effects on Latin America. Flights are short and cheap to and from the US and I would much rather beef up my Spanish than learn another language from scratch.

[jijijijij]

> If they have to then spend more, tax rates will go up.

Speaking for Germany, which is also the biggest economy in the EU, this is not necessarily true. Germany has notoriously low, more or less no debt and a lot of room to shift the tax burden towards the very rich like wealth and inheritance taxes, which are pretty much absent right now. It's a "very rich country", but the median wealth is actually quite low, comparatively. Germany could easily mobilize many, many billions before touching income tax. Investing in military and tech will also create jobs and so on.

This whole tax comparison is tiresome, since the real question is about quality of life, not numbers. It's tradeoffs countries decided upon. Great if you can keep most of it, but also lose it all if you trip badly. And overall I am quite happy to get "robbed" by the government so people can afford a living without actually robbing/shooting me on the streets. Here is the stats on people shot dead by the police in all of Germany (~84M people): https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/706648/umfrag...

Not sure where you are going with the rest of the argument. Sounds like the US will suffer just about the same here. So, what's wrong with moving to Europe? By the way, there is a country speaking Spanish in Europe too ;)

Honestly, looking at the potential crisis ahead, I am very happy Europe isn't deeply dependent on the "service industry", but tangible products. And with ASML, Zeiss and the highly capable chemical industry in the EU, I feel like we are better set up, theoretically, to bring home chip fabs, than the US replacing all the highly specialized machine parts produced across Europe, which run power generation and research facilities. And If tomorrow FAANG would exit Europe, we may survive that too lol. But we do have to get our shit together, which isn't guaranteed.

[tech_lizzard]

* yeah, I know that salary is not attainable in Europe, I'm ready to say goodbye to that as long as I can live decently without scraping by.

* Your guess to my reason for leaving is accurate. I've also wanted to see Europe for awhile, and was planning to go relocate and travel there before 2024, the recent issues in the news just provides another reason.

* in Europe, I have less of a chance of getting shot by police, better healthcare, and more walkable cities that I can get to on a weekend getaway. I'm all for that.

[scarface_74]

From what I am seeing, the compensation vs cost of living is worse in most parts of the EU than it is the US.

I’m a Black guy so I get your mistrust of police. I grew up on NWA and “F** the Police”. But even I wouldn’t make life decisions based on that.

And is healthcare “better” in Europe or more accessible to everyone? In other words, is it that much better if you have decent health insurance through your employer?