[tim333]

Yeah that's mostly my thinking, IE6 was a pain in the neck that deserved to die. (no 8 on this list https://www.pcworld.com/article/535838/worst_products_ever.h...)

Chrome is fine.

Firefox is kind of mixed. I use it sometimes. One of the things everyone recommended was tree style tabs so I got those and was kind of amazed that to make them look ok you are supposed to get some custom css in your editor and send it to some obscure folder deep in the file system. And now the appearance has changed because some update worked differently with the hacked together css? That seems kind of clunky. Though maybe I'm doing it wrong.

The containers thing is cool.

[JohnBooty]

How do you feel about Google effectively controlling the web, since they control the browser with overwhelming market share?

Is that a factor, or...?

[tim333]

From the browser point of view I don't really worry. I do have various other browsers and such like if Google were to be annoying. Their browser share has dropped from a peak around 90% to more like 67% I think.

I am a bit wary about their dominant position in advertising, though people still google stuff and see google ads if they use other browsers.

[JohnBooty]

    Their browser share has dropped from a peak around 90% to more like 67% I think.

Those browsers gaining market share are based on Google's engine, though.

That still gives Google de facto control of the web, or at the very least control of web standards.

Those companies building atop Chromium can maintain their own forks of the core rendering engine, but that is a very heavy burden indeed, and Google can always decide to move off of Chromium onto their own private fork and leave everybody else on their own.