[okeuro49]

> In Java, people will pull in a 300MB+ mega-framework for a hello-world REST service. Oh and another 200MB for ORM. Another 250MB+ for nailpolish, etc.

I just now used https://start.spring.io/ to generate a project using Spring web, Spring security and Spring data JPA (Hibernate).

It generated a JAR that is 52MB.

[lenkite]

Thanks - I haven't used the Spring Generator for several years now. However, I think one also needs to include the drivers, oauth stuff, template libraries, etc to get an accurate represention of "standard Java enterprise size". Gonna play with this offline and see how good it has got.

[ivan_gammel]

A real monolithic app dealing with videostreaming that I have been working recently, was based on Spring Boot and AWS SDK and it was a 82 Mb jar file. It had the drivers, oauth stuff, a couple of template engines for business reasons (Handlebars and Thymeleaf), database and queue drivers etc. It could be maintained and extended by a junior developer, because it had established design patterns and they only needed to follow some project conventions. We had multiple releases per week at engineering cost of less than 25k€ per year. I would not be able to build something like that with that budget on Go.

[gf000]

You might want to check the native spring native plugin as well, which can AOT compile the whole thing to a single binary (thanks to Graal).

[geodel]

Good. Just a little bigger than linux image size for containers and thats without including JVM.