[willy_k]

Says the subscriber to the other one. Both sides are rank with this, there are surface differences and differences in MO but this has become the default state of both. If one vehemently disagree with that, their side has done its job well.

[mmooss]

You dictate what someone else thinks and if they disagree with you, they must be manipulated. That's quite a powerful position to be in.

[willy_k]

Your previous comment implies the same. Regardless, I’m not saying that anyone who disagrees is necessarily, just observing that the natural consequence of said manipulation would be to hold a dogmatic insistence that “it’s them, not me”.

[mmooss]

It's mis- or disinformation to say that all sides, all people are the same. It's the ultimate cover for people doing wrong - it eliminates any 'wrongness'.

A corrupt politician might say, 'everyone is corrupt'. Now their flaw is wiped away, in a relative sense. But it's not true.