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by porridgeraisin 492 days ago
> plentiful capable

I heard from a top executive at one of the FAANGs that they are only able to fill 40-50% of their workforce from local hiring.

But, FAANG don't really hire the "visa mill" L1-A immigrants, it's usually H1-B folks that have a m.s/phd in some american university.
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cudgy 492 days ago
MS/PHD to do what? Almost all of those jobs are just basic programming positions updating websites, writing crud apps, internal tools, devops, cloud deployment, and other run of the mill typical programming tasks.

We all know the reality of these jobs requires very little (if any) of a masters or PhD level education.

Furthermore, FAANG is laying people off not hiring.

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porridgeraisin 492 days ago
MS is done mainly to get access to the US job market. Of course some of them do use it to get into more sophisticated work.

Also, they're hiring in some divisions, firing in many divisions.

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DrillShopper 492 days ago
With all of the profits they're bringing in they could certainly train up people like the old industrial titans of the mid-20th century.
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absolutelastone 492 days ago
They don't even need to go to that extreme. Probably a majority of their qualified applicants are screened out via their leetcode and high-stress interviews. They tell congress they can't find capable employees then tell applicants they only hire the best of the best.
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porridgeraisin 492 days ago
Yeah that's true. But I'm not sure how the costs for that will work out at scale considering software is a high attrition industry with career advancements done mostly through lateral movement.
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DrillShopper 491 days ago
> software is a high attrition industry with career advancements done mostly through lateral movement

If employees invest in training up employees (and more than just the standard HR pablum anybody who isn't a complete sociopath already know and the sociopaths spend their time trying to game all of the parts of the system) then the incentive will be to retain them else they will have to go through that training from scratch again on whomever they hire.

If you give people a place to work where they don't constantly feel like they're fighting fires, where they're not always begging for a raise, and where they're at an office designed to cater to the needs of employees rather than employers then you'd be surprised how long most workers will stay there.

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