[_petronius]

Look, I'm aware that he's a liar and his track record from his first term should have made that pretty apparent to the voters at large. I'm just saying that the idea that "people voted for this" and therefore he has some kind of mandate for the current agenda is dumb when he explicitly said his policy was something else.

[mrkeen]

You're right. I distinctly remembered hearing about all that DOGE nonsense a long time ago, but I checked my sources and I can only spot stuff after the election.

[krapp]

I'm not defending the premise that Trump has a mandate at all - I don't even believe in the concept of a "mandate" in that context, it's just propaganda.

I'm arguing against the premise that Trump publicly denouncing Project 2025 really means no one who voted for him saw any of this coming.