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by cies 489 days ago
Very similar to PHP indeed!

PHP is also something I'd not advise anyone to use on a greenfield app unless you have really good reasons for doing so.

There are much better --also very conservative-- stacks available for free (and no, those are not JS based).

For instance: Kotlin, http4k, JTE/KTE (or kotlinx.html), SQLDelight, Postgress.
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gnz11 489 days ago
You say you "advise" and don't give any specifics. So why Kotlin over the myriad of other options? Picking a LAMP stack is picking a stack that is battle tested — nothing wrong with that for new projects.
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cies 488 days ago
Kotlin is basically Java 2.0. Kotlin has really great developer ergonomics and a huuuge ecosystem of Java libs you can easily use since you are on top of the JVM which (a much better tech than PHP). Kotlin being quite high-level fits well with webdev (I'd only use Rust for super perf critical web dev for instance). Kotlin is OO-code (easy for new devs) with lots of FP goodness (as that's where the party's at).

Big shops with big legacy PHP code bases all move away from it.

LAMP = Linux (sure), Apache (no-way, use NGINX or in app web server instead), MySQL (sorry, Postgres won) and PHP/Perl (these langs are going the way of the Dodo).

So LAMP is a bad choice nowadays. I'd say it has been since Ruby on Rails 1.0.

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DeathArrow 488 days ago
Golang and C# would be fine picks, too.
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cies 487 days ago
Not too familiar with C#, but it seems they have okay null-safety, and with some work you can have exhaustivity checked matches on sum types.

https://github.com/WalkerCodeRanger/ExhaustiveMatching

I prefer languages that have been designed with this in mind. Kotlin in this case goes a long way.

Golang is shit IHMO. No null-safety. No sum types. I dont know what Rob Pike was thinking when he designed this. Total disregard for the last 40 years of innovation in software engineering. Sad.

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