[karparov]

12 months is a laughable amount of time. Sadly, companies have normalized such short periods of time, so much so that everybody would give me looks when I say that 5 or 10 years would be more appropriate. Especially tech folks, so I'm expecting pushback in a forum like HN.

My in-laws have a few kitchen appliances from the 80s. Still working rock-solid. Not the wifi-enabled modern crap with some shitty cloud-based app that you need to replace all the time.

[eloisant]

In Europe the minimum is 2 years, but I agree it's still too short.

[karparov]

That's kinda my point. Two years are better than one, but celebrating it as the achievement is really missing the bigger picture (and is a great success of lobbying work)