[the_cat_kittles]

this is a perfect comment. you basically have a correct read, and express it pretty succinctly. except, you think by saying it directly, youve exposed it as ridiculous. whats ridiculous about it? just think of software like a trade, how do all tradespeople feel about those things?

[milesrout]

Are you kidding about tradesmen? Tradesmen do all of these things without much complaint.

If you worked as a plumber and expected never to have to turn up on site, never to attend a site meeting, never to have to give an estimate of time or cost, never to have your work measured and evaluated, never to have to justify yourself in a performance evaluation, etc. you would be laughed out of the room.

A better comparison is probably professional services jobs: mostly done in offices with computers by university-educated people these days, like programming. I can't say I have met any that think they shouldn't have to give estimates or have meetings.

[the_cat_kittles]

yeah, you dont go to alot of meetings, nor are your estimates and timeframes very exact. also, all the stuff that you mockingly said is bad is bad. you say a better comparison for a programming job is a programming job? hmm ok

[bloomingkales]

The person doesn't have a read on it.