[javajosh]

But the comment you're replying to doesn't say Java doesn't have any downsides. It just says that Java has a great story for doing shared types between client and server, which is true. It's also true that Java as a language has gotten a lot better over time. This is I think thanks to pressure from other languages written for the jvm like kotlin, And also developer feedback for those who work in other languages like JavaScript. Java is old and boring. Just like go is new and boring. Rust has plenty of downsides this idea that it's easy to use. Seems wrong to me. The borrow checker is famously difficult to work with despite being a central feature of the language. The really big upside to JavaScript is that it's the native language of browsers and so in a weird way. If you want to get closest to the metal so to speak, JavaScript is a better option for most deployed applications. It's interesting to note that the op's article mostly points to build tools that are written in rust rather than applications and I think that's telling.

[ludwik]

> But the comment you're replying to doesn't say Java doesn't have any downsides

Yet it blames "hipsters" for throwing "it all in the garbage," implying that there was no rational reason for people to switch away from Java. Naturally, people respond by sharing their reasons.