[walthamstow]

That's not true I'm afraid:

The German Bundesliga has a playoff to see which of the 16th team in tier 1 or the 3rd team in tier 2 goes into tier 1 next year

The English Championship (tier 2) has a tournament of four teams (placed 3rd-6th) to determine who goes up into the Premier League. The final of this is known as the richest game in football, worth £120m+ to the winner.

It could also be argued that the new UEFA Champions League format is a US-style playoff system. Maybe the old format too now I think of it.

[Sloowms]

These are not playoff systems for a championship but for a promotion/relegation. There are better examples like the Belgian league but they carry over more benefits from the regular season.

The champions league determines the teams going the brackets in 8 "season" games. Instead of > 30.

But even in your bad faith argument the number 1 and for the championship even the number 2 is decided by just the regular season. So they understand that the regular season should mean more than some seeding.

Everyone knows that in 80 games a half are either walkovers or don't mean anything in the end. They are only there for the money and could be cut for a better league. They could, just like 3 pointers, even make it a more profitable option.

[walthamstow]

The claim was that playoffs don't exist at all outside the US.

The UEFA CL is a league-then-playoff championship system. There are other examples, as you yourself acknowledge.

Bad faith argument? How dare you.

[bdangubic]

so we gonna count losers and bottom-feeders? my bad, lets do NFL the same way, “superbowl” this year should be like Giants vs. Pats :)

[walthamstow]

Moving the goalposts there pal. You said playoffs don't exist outside the US. They do.

UEFA Champions League is the finest competition in world football. It's a league-then-playoff system. Real Madrid ring any bells?

The winner of the Championship playoff joins the best, richest league in the world. Bottom feeder, lmao.

[bdangubic]

Look at what I commented on mate…

These are not playoff systems for a championship but for a promotion/relegation

And again, UEFA CL is NOT (look that up if it is confusing) single country league. Once Chiefs start playing Montreal Destroyers and San Salvador Bulldogs in North America Football league than we can compare US sports leagues with UEFA CL. until then, try to find a country in which there are playoffs after league season is over, only US does this garbage and makes regular season generally un-watchable and meaningless

[walthamstow]

> single country league

This is the first time you've mentioned anything about a single country. Those goalposts just won't stay still will they mate. Must be the wind.

[bdangubic]

you really ought to read this thread more carefully :)