[NewUser76312]

As a current OpenAI subscriber (just the regular $20/mo plan), I'm happy to not spend the effort switching as long as they stay within a few negligible percent of the State of the Art.

I tried DeepSeek, it's fine, had some downtime, whatever, I'll just stick with 4o. Claude is also fine, not noticeably better to the point where I care to switch. OAI has my chat history which is worth something I suppose - maybe a week of effort of re-doing prompts and chats on certain projects.

That being said, my barrier to switching isn't that high, if they ever stop being close-to-tied for first, or decide to raise their prices, I'll gladly cancel.

I like their API as well as a developer, but it seems like other competitors are mostly copying that too, so again not a huge reason to stick with em.

But hey, inertia and keeping pace with the competition, is enough to keep me as a happy customer for now.

[0xDEAFBEAD]

>I like their API as well as a developer, but it seems like other competitors are mostly copying that too, so again not a huge reason to stick with em.

You can also use tools like litellm and openrouter to abstract away choice of API

https://github.com/BerriAI/litellm

https://openrouter.ai/

[saretup]

4o isn’t really comparable to deepseek r1. Use o3-mini-high or o1 if you wanna stay near the state of the art.

[NewUser76312]

I've had a coding project where I actually preferred 4o outputs to DeepSeek R1, though it was a bit of a niche use case (long script to parse DOM output of web pages).

Also they just updated 4o recently, it's even better now. o3-mini-high is solid as well, I try it when 4o fails.

One issue I have with most models is that when they're re-writing my long scripts, they tend to forget to keep a few lines or variables here or there. Makes for some really frustrating debugging. o1 has actually been pretty decent here so far. I'm definitely a bit of a power user, I really try to push the models to do as much as possible regarding long software contexts.

[exclipy]

Why not use a tool where it can perform pricision edits rather than rewrite the whole thing? Eg. Windsurf or Cursor