[codr7]

Yeah, define productive.

Because I suspect that comes with learning a lot less in the process and lower quality output.

[simonw]

My own usage of LLMs to help me code has resulted in me learning more and producing higher quality output.

You have to use them diligently, but it's definitely possible to avoid the obvious downsides of working in this way.

[codr7]

And what kind of experience do you have?

Because I suspect it depends a lot on skill level.

[simonw]

25+ years getting paid money to write software.

[codr7]

shrugs Sorry, I have no explanation then.

Because I have the same level of experience and to me, for my way of working, they're obviously mostly useless.

[bdangubic]

same and 100% sure can do it for another 25+ if I wanted to work that long