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by AngryData 487 days ago
They use drum brakes because drum brakes are protected better from the environment while brake discs are not and will quickly get covered in rust and dirt when not used for awhile and then be less effective when they are actually needed for an emergency braking situation.

We only ever really went to disc brakes because they were slightly cheaper and easier to manufacture and since racing vehicles used disc brakes (because they benefit from the extra cooling capacity that commuters don't need) it was easy to convince customers that they were "better" and they became standard.

There was also a time when they didn't figure out traction control very well using brake drums while they did manage it with brake discs, but part of that could be just because brake drums were out of fashion in racing where traction and stability control were invented and implemented first and nobody bothered improving drum brakes to take advantage of that tech until decades later.

Now that EV drivers can go weeks without touching their actual brakes and just rely on regen braking, disc brakes have become a liability since they aren't worn down smooth and cleaned whenever someone stops at the end of their driveway.

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I've used drum brakes in older cars and motorcycles, and their stopping power is terrible, fade is terrible, and they are horrible in the rain.

The only recent cars I've had with drum brakes used them for the parking brake. They tended to corrode and not work well. Also, as an emergency brake even with a pedal you could push hard on, they were beyond terrible, even dangerously ineffective.

Seems like EV manufacturers should set their cars to use the friction brakes for the first few stops of each trip, both to clean off the rust & dirt, and also to test whether they still work.
More advanced vehicles will also gently tap the brakes when you have your wipers on (or it detects rain) to keep them dry in case you need them.

"Brake Disc Drying"

https://www.reddit.com/r/eGolf/comments/dhll01/egolf_brake_d...

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1782553

You probably want your disk brakes to get nice and hot every once in a while.

An electric motor is really good at arresting high rpm movement while charging, not so great at bringing low rpm movement to a stop. EVs blend together Regen and friction at slow speeds.

That does wear off the rust.

> An electric motor is really good at arresting high rpm movement

I don't think any EV that I've heard of has full-range electric brakes.

There are two interesting kinds of things that I think EVs could use...

brake resistors - if the battery can't absorb the full power of regenerative braking, maybe giant resistors can take the dissipate the rest of the energy.

eddy currents - it might be cool to use eddy currents to brake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_current_brake