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by novemp 495 days ago
The thing is, other people are also allowed to control who and what they see. You're not entitled to an audience.
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How many of these people are going through these blocklists to properly verify the claims?

And why should the users of my instance be penalized because someone found some reason to dislike me? If someone wants to block me, fine. But having the influence to push a whole server out of the wider network definitely counts as "too much power".

I want moderation on the platforms I go to. I don’t want to have to wade through cruft, even if there are false positives.

Also I don’t want anything pro-crypto on my feeds.

Can you guess how many people are talking about crypto on mastodon.social?

> Also I don’t want anything pro-crypto on my feeds.

Then just don't follow them?

Also, can you maybe try to be a little less judgemental? Your attitude is a perfect illustration for https://mastodon.social/@molily/113480811492965996

Attitude? My brother in Christ, you’re the one that wants to put crypto posts in my community.

You’re not entitled to an audience.

> that wants to put crypto posts

I wasn't. That's the point. It's been a long time since I stopped working with Ethereum and I always despised cryptocurrency as an speculation instrument. To take whatever I wrote about (ENS as an alternative for resolving identity without DNS or the handful of discussions about a guy working on ZK-proofs) as being a "crypto bro" is ridiculous, but I am sure that your prejudices will force you to disagree.

> in my community.

I wasn't chasing anyone around asking to follow me. If your server ended up getting some of my posts, go to the next HOA Mastodon meeting to complain to whoever in "your" community who did not toe the party line.

Because that is their right to do so, and if the users of that instance disagree they can migrate to another one fairly easily?
> if the users of that instance disagree they can migrate to another one fairly easily

How will they disagree, if they don't even get to know who is getting blocked?

Most instances publish lists of who they block. It's a user's choice if they decide to register at an instance that does not publish that list.
Users of an instance choose to place their trust in the instance moderator. If they feel they're being "punished", they're free to leave. It is insanely easy to change what instance you're on.
You're right, people do have the right to block whatever they want. But it's just shitty that someone else made the call, and now presumably many people are impacted. There's no recourse.
There is a recourse. Move instances.
Is your kid being pressured by their peers to conform? There is a solution for it, just change schools!
Do you seriously think spending thousands of dollars and uprooting your life is comparable to registering at a different social media website?
I think the absurdity of the proposition is justified.

I got banned from my city's subreddit for questioning why folks were against anti-crime (moderate Democrat) politicians running for the city mayor's office. Now I can't participate at all: I can't ask my community for recommendations, take up offers on free concert tickets that are frequently given out, etc. Where else do I go for that?

Social media is a common carrier, and unelected mods are unwanted and unjustified authoritarians.

It should all just be a protocol. No platforms.

> Now I can't participate at all: I can't ask my community for recommendations, take up offers on free concert tickets that are frequently given out, etc. Where else do I go for that?

A different subreddit. Make one yourself. If this censorship is truly so evil, won't people flock to join an alternative?

> Social media is a common carrier, and unelected mods are unwanted and unjustified authoritarians.

This is ridiculous. Other people's websites are not common carriers.

You do realize that I am talking about an instance that I operate as a business and which has actual paying customers?

You are saying that it's okay for people to put my name on a list just because they have certain prejudices, and that it then becomes to other users to verify if the accusation is true?

Luckily for me, my customers are sensible people who are not particularly interested in following these drama-seeking, HOA personalities of Mastodon. They just want to go on with their lives and support someone who is at least providing a service and support the open web.

> You do realize that I am talking about an instance that I operate as a business and which has actual paying customers?

No, and I don't care, to be honest. Use a website and email for your business. Social media should be for humans, not companies.

I also can't comprehend the idea of paying to use Mastodon. What do your users get out of that? Surely not robust moderation, if you think blocking and defederating is so awful.

> Luckily for me, my customers are sensible people who are not particularly interested in following these drama-seeking, HOA personalities of Mastodon. They just want to go on with their lives and support someone who is at least providing a service and support the open web.

So then... this doesn't actually affect you at all?