[lxgr]

I'm not opposed to anyone voluntarily using a NAT at all. I just hate it when somebody makes that decision for me, and that unfortunately still happens all the time.

If it's a well-reasoned decision, sure, but I do suspect that more often than not it's a lack of knowledge about alternatives that makes people still opt for NATs, and that just makes me sad on top of being annoyed with the inconvenience of having to tunnel when a direct connection seems so close at hand.

> I would hazard that most devices on there internet are in the boat of want to talk to the internet but not be reachable on it.

I highly doubt that. One big example is VoIP: Incredibly common these days, yet so much of it is going through centralized relays, and often for absolutely no technical reason.

[chgs]

How do you feel about NPT?