[nottorp]

Well 2 years ago when I built a new desktop i took great care to order hardware that works on windows 11.

Then I read the stories saying 11 has even more telemetry that you can't disable, ads on the start menu, Edge that you can't get rid of... and when I got around to setting up Windows on it I ordered a Win 10 license. They're still available even now, I think.

Win 10 does try to trick me into upgrading to 11 randomly on boot (full screen ad with a very hidden "fuck off and skip this" button) but so far I've managed to avoid it.

[caspper69]

Been running Win11 for a long time; used to be on the Insider track, so the upgrade came early and automatically.

No ads on the start menu. No bs notifications. OneDrive disabled and set to not auto-start.

I did have to disable all of the "interests" on the whatever-widget in the lower left corner, only leaving on the weather, so now it shows the current temperature, but doesn't feel the need to pester me about "breaking news". And I'm really irritable about that shit. Even text or an exclamation point grinds my gears; I feel that same way on mobile phones. No Best Buy, you don't need an indicator on your icon because I've dismissed your 3-times-weekly sale announcements.

Not sure about telemetry, need to look into that. I'm not really against telemetry, per se, provided it has a valid use case. If they're taking pictures of my screen while I'm working to train AI or do god knows what with it, I will deal with that (including moving full time to a distro, which I have done in the past).

Otherwise, my only real complaint is they manage to eff up the mouse in some way every every 4th update or so. Latest one is special pointers failing to return to normal after mousing away from whatever caused the special pointer (i.e. the pointer switches to indicate resizing a window and then doesn't switch back).

Beyond that, mostly smooth sailing. Wish WSL2 would finally officially support 6.x kernels, but they've been blocked on some random issues for 8+ months now.

I'm running Pro btw.

[0_____0]

I'm running Win11 but I had to check, because I forgot. I remember having to turn off a bunch of bullshit when I first installed Win on this machine but there aren't ads or anything. The most annoying thing it does is power cycle when I'm not expecting it, in order to update. Pretty sure there's a setting for that I haven't touched.

[demosthanos]

The power cycling is especially annoying for me since I dual boot and I (intentionally) have grub boot into Linux by default. The bright side is it encourages me to spend time in Linux by default!

[loeg]

> when I got around to setting up Windows on it I ordered a Win 10 license. They're still available even now, I think.

The licenses are the same -- you can install Win10 media using a Win11 license key.

[nottorp]

> The licenses are the same -- you can install Win10 media using a Win11 license key.

Too great a risk if you ask me.

[loeg]

Risk of what?

[nottorp]

Getting some "special" license key that doesn't work like that.

When you custom build and you're in the EU where reselling unused keys from volume licenses for cheap is legal, at least...

[loeg]

I'm talking about mainstream MS keys you buy at reputable vendors, not sketchy eastern European keys. If you're going to pirate it, just pirate it.

[pqtyw]

Was it possible to build a PC with new components that wouldn't be compatible with Windows 11?

I mean I find it pretty hard to understand what are the actual requirements besides TPM 2.0 but all >= 8th gen Intel CPUs should support that?

[nottorp]

The TPM is on the motherboard as far as i know? I remember the mobos were specifying if they run windows 11 in descriptions when I ordered.

Besides I bought AMD. Needed the thing for parallel builds and I was getting more cores for my money. Plus actually usable integrated graphics. Plus less power consumption.

[reginald78]

Many custom build PCs had the fTPM disabled by default in the bios. It was buggy and caused performance issues on AMD systems at the time and since few people buying their own motherboards were using it, it was a pretty obvious fix for the motherboard makers.