[lolinder]

The first words of the video are "we're going to do the hardest ear training test of all time", and the description contains a link to "The Beato Ear Training Program". I'm really not sure what it is that you're missing, it's pretty clear.

Also, I know from my own experience that the idea that this is an innate skill is bunk—my wife's mother taught her children absolute pitch through deliberate training. Sing a note to them, they identify it, they check themselves on the piano. Repeat.

No one in any prior generations had the skill, nor do any of the cousins. Just the kids my wife's mom trained.

I'm sure like most skills it's one that is easier to pick up in childhood than later, but it's not some musical innate ability that you either have or lack, it is trained.

[stackedinserter]

> The first words of the video are "we're going to do the hardest ear training test of all time", and the description contains a link to "The Beato Ear Training Program". I'm really not sure what it is that you're missing, it's pretty clear.

So you heard a word "test", then looked at a link that says "ear training" (and leads to a page that says "improving your __relative__ pitch") and decided that this 8yo went through the training and got this perfect pitch? Is that what you're saying?

[lolinder]

I notice you pointedly neglect to even touch on my anecdotal experience that says that it's a trainable skill.

And yes, he's 100% implying that this boy practiced to get there. He's not saying that he's going to be able to train any random person to get there with an online course, but he's 100% saying that this boy practiced the skill.

[stackedinserter]

Your "anecdotal experience" is just your words. It can be (and most likely is) just a lie from some internet rando. Did your wife (or who trained who, I don't remember) document the progress or followed some methodology that's proven successful and reproducible? How do she know her kids didn't have it before "training"?

Beato's explanation is that his son was exposed to a lot of different music since the age 0 and at some age they noticed that he associates sounds like "hey, microwave sounds like star wars". Nobody drilled sine waves 5 hours a day. His whole point is that you need to immerse children into the world of tones, that will train to "see" them.

[lolinder]

How in the world do you square this reply with your original comment?

> Because it is really magical and unattainable

If it's unattainable, how can you also embrace the idea that there's a path to attaining it (immerse children in the world of tones)?

If this latest reply reflects your actual opinion then we don't actually disagree. No one said anything about drilling sine waves besides you.

[stackedinserter]

I'm not "embracing" it, it's just what Beato said. He could lie, just like you did. The result is clearly not guaranteed, it can be coincidence, it can be a lucky gene in DNA or something else. I didn't see a paper that would study two control groups of children, one exposed to classic music, one not. All we know is children in families that speak tonal languages have it more.

> No one said anything about drilling sine waves besides you

Hey, maybe you forgot, somebody trained their kids not long ago, doing this lol.

Nevertheless, my initial point was that for now it's close to magic. Some, 1 in 10000, people are blessed to have this additional sense (at least for the first 40-ish years of their life), and others are not. It's a subjective perception of the thing indeed. If that doesn't awe you – well, ok, it doesn't hurt anybody. After all, every beautiful sunset is just you rotated away from a ball of plasma.