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by seanmcdirmid 489 days ago
It was never about "the democrats aren't perfect", I think we gave up a long time ago on politicians that would actually push things forward. Nope, it was more like here is the "status quo" (things don't get better but they don't get worse either) and here is "batsh*t crazy" (99% chance things get really bad). And I guess that's what many Trump supporters are going for: they know Trump is nuts, but they don't want to see the status quo stand. They want destruction while hoping that they will come out better for it.
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s1artibartfast 489 days ago
I think this is the natural outcome mode of Anarcho-liberalism on the left versus populism on the right, as demonstrated in many countries around the world.

Turns out leftist anarcho-liberal movements mean they simultaneously fuel the right, but ultimately fail due to lack of organization and platform coherence.

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seanmcdirmid 489 days ago
It’s weird because Trump emboldens the far left locally. Here in Seattle, we have some crazy city council members that can only get elected when Trump is President (it’s been drifting right since the end of Trump’s last term). Turns out leftist anarchy-liberal movements are fueled by rightist authoritarian-conservative movements as well. And some of us really want moderates running things, not extremists on either side.
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JumpCrisscross 489 days ago
Extremist partisans fuelling each other is a sign of too much democracy. We’ve known this since the Athenians. The solution may be in slowing down the signal transmission between base population, elites and policy.
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s1artibartfast 489 days ago
I tend to agree that speed is a key issue, but so is bandwidth.

Democracy by itself is meaningless and valueless. It becomes useful or not based on the systems, institutions, expectations it mediates.

I think that with the advent of digital media, many parts of the system have (specifically parts of the electorate) been rendered non-functional by overload. With a firehose of issues, there is insufficient time for organization, solution seeking, and consensus building.

So yes, slow down the signal, but also prioritize to prevent political and cultural DDOS.

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