[putlake]

In your "how to cook the perfect steak" video [1] there's a picture of various doneness levels of a steak. It's a fantastic picture. The creator of that picture will get jackshit from this. Phind gets value, the user gets value but the creator does not.

You're hyperlinking to the source, which is nice. But there's no reason for the user to click through so it won't really help the creator. The upshot of all this is that the open web will have less incentives for content creators. Someone's got to create new data for the AI borg. In future, these creators are less likely to be independent bloggers/photographers. Perhaps biased media outlets will be the only ones with the incentives to create.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTCpnyICukM#t=55

[mvieira38]

Couldn't you say the same for something like Google Images, though? I might click on the link to an image once in a blue moon if I find it funny, but I usually don't even click to maximize it...

[Maxion]

Yeah and they got sued and lost.

[rushingcreek]

We'd love to partner directly with content creators. This is something we're thinking about a lot and are having conversations on how to go about it.

I will also personally do everything in my power to keep us from running ads on Phind. I want to keep Phind honest and authentic, and will do everything I can to make it a net positive for the internet.

[Maxion]

By displaying other peoples images that you do not have a license for you are breaking copyright law and are open to lawsuits.

[LouisSayers]

I'm no lawyer, but the law is nuanced when it comes to copyright.

Fair use exists which permits usage of copyrighted content in certain situations.

I'm not saying that they aren't in violation, just that copyright doesn't automatically ban others from using your material - it typically (laws are different in every country) depends on how (and how much of) your material is used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

[dougb5]

Could you change your product to only show images that have Creative Commons licenses? https://daminion.net/articles/tips/how-to-use-images-legally...

[viraptor]

I'd love it if the BAT / Flattr / Coil style idea actually started working. Flattr failed to get attention from the actual users, but it could be revived to pay the website creators from "indirect visits" like using their content in phind or perplexity. (in addition to continuing the direct payments)

[dingnuts]

>I want to keep Phind honest and authentic

Choosing to violate the copyright of content creators sure is a funny way to be honest or authentic.

[econ]

If such a place exists you could serve an ad only where it is extremely useful given the current context.

I've only seen this once.

[amelius]

Sounds like: asking for forgiveness is better than asking for permission ...

[codetrotter]

> Someone's got to create new data for the AI borg

AI companies could always go the route that the creators of Pokemon Go went:

> The model uses geolocation information from scans players submit of real-world locations while playing Pokémon Go.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2024/11/23/niantic-pokem...

Make a game, have people submit pictures and video to you as part of the game.

Where Niantic were using Pokemon Go for collecting scans of locations, other games could get players to take other kinds of pictures and video too.

"Oh, look! There's a 500XP bonus if I can shoot a picture of a perfectly grilled steak within the next 45 minutes!"