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by blumomo 487 days ago
Who can she a light on where these claims „far right forces“ originate? What were these spam emails saying?
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I received an email this morning where someone created an issue in a public repo with a title containing a racial slur and mentioning a bunch of users, including me. This is just one example as far as I know.
Got stuck in my spam folder, but for posterity. I've censored the N word out of this, it was uncensored in the email. Also other people's names

> [truth/truth] N***R BALLS (Issue #303)

> { A list of a bunch of users }

The email I received had no further context or content.

Seems like edge-lord spam mischaracterized as "far right"
These spammers also spammed threats to Codeberg users that maintain projects that advocate for human rights, trans rights, etc and collect facts/data against hate and discrimination. The content of those threats are how we know those spammers are far-right forces. The spam email notification was just a side-thing the spammers did to get more attention.
What’s the difference between?
Reversed question: How do they even relate? One is intentionally violating customs/manners, the other is a political orientation.
What’s the difference between?
I've heard plenty of "far-left" people use slurs, including n*****.

Using a slur is not indicative of a political leaning, it's an indication of your edge-lord status.

I feel like this kind of statement requires a little more details to back it up.

And, to use a hot take here, I believe that the "left to right" political axis can be simplified using a "I believe I am better than X" statement, where X is a set of people(s), that grows ever wider the further right you go.

Therefore a person on the "far left" of the axis would complete the sentence as "I believe I am better than nobody" and thus it's not really plausible that they would need slurs to talk about others.

I realize that this sounds a little of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, but people saying they are something, does not make them that something unless backed up by actions/beliefs. Using slurs is antithetic to being any kind of left, not just "far", so I suspect you might have met someone confused about things.

Yes all far left people are saints and would never do this. Ridiculous.

I guess you missed every time they called Tim Scott and Judge Thomas uncle toms.

Yeah you're right. Far left people use slurs like "capitalist" and "billionaire" and have calls to violence like "eat the rich", I forgot. I'm not sure if they're really as offensive as the ones that we initially talked about though. (Also, I have no idea who those two(three?) people are.)
If a person is acting like a right-wing asshole, I’m going to assume they are a right-wing asshole. If they don’t like that, they should change their behavior.
This is circular reasoning -- a tautology.
No, it’s abductive reasoning. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
No it's not.
> If a person is acting like a right-wing asshole

my point was people of all political leanings can act like this. it's not exclusive to "far-right" people.

> If they don’t like that, they should change their behavior.

they don't care. that's why they're trolling

I have heard things as well, here is my proof. [0]

What in the heck is happening here? Is this Twitter?

[0]

These forces made spam accounts that spammed threats/insults in issue trackers and pull requests on projects that collect facts and resources against hate and discrimination and advocate for human rights, trans rights, etc on Codeberg. Some of the same spam accounts were behind the spam notification emails.

Also, because of the timing of the DDoS attack, they are likely be behind the DDoS attack as well, although that's not for sure. So we know they're far-right forces because of what they said in their threats to Codeberg users. The blog post mentions this but doesn't explicitly list the projects that were threatened so they don't continue to get spammed.

The emails were just "[truth/truth] (SLUR) BALLS (Issue #849)"

"@truth mentioned you: (100 users mentioned with @)"

They want to feel validated with identity politics first and foremost. Creating additional distance from the bad words so people who care about identity politics are comforted.