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by sockaddr 490 days ago
Yup. And don't buy the line that Elon made Tesla a success. They had the core tech and talent to build an EV (without all the other bullshit he added) before he came along. Given enough time they could have been something on their own too.
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dlivingston 490 days ago
This is most definitely not true. Tesla was barely more than an electric powertrain and battery combo when Musk took over. The first production Roadsters even reused the chassis from Porsche 911s (IIRC).

Other US competitors aren't at parity with Tesla or BYD. Nikola went bust. Legacy automakers turned out mediocre EVs. Rivian is the only true competitor, but they are a luxury brand and don't have Tesla's crown jewel (the Supercharger network).

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sho_hn 490 days ago
> Tesla was barely more than an electric powertrain and battery combo when Musk took over.

Musk also had zero experience or track record making cars when Musk took over, nor any hardware products of any kind, for that matter, or running a manufacturing org.

Occam's razor would indicate it's very improbably to credit success all to him.

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hn_acc1 490 days ago
It was a Lotus. I don't see how you can get that so badly wrong (they aren't even remotely similar) and claim to know the state of Tesla at that time very well.
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amazingamazing 490 days ago
> Given enough time they could have been something on their own too.

This is based off what? Couldn’t this be argued for literally any company?

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