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by fredfoobar 485 days ago
I don't get it, what do you expect them to do? just reinforce your view? the data is pretty clear how many people use FSD without issues. What's equally weird is you guys preemptively smearing folks who defend FSD. I don't get it, nothing will make you guys change your mind I guess.
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academe 485 days ago
For me, evidence would work. That's why California's regulations to report miles driven and # of accidents and disengagements is so nice. It's a standard to compare, measure and regulate. And when Tesla hides away from such and instead moves to unregulated Texas markets, it makes me predisposed to think they are shying away from gathering just the evidence that would convince me it's safe. If it works for you, great. But this difference makes me happy to live in California.
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vel0city 485 days ago
> the data is pretty clear how many people use FSD without issues.

What data? The data Tesla chooses to share with you?

It wouldn't surprise me to find out this incident had FSD disengage moments before colliding with the pole, thus continuing 100% FSD safe driving.

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fredfoobar 483 days ago
Who else can share the data Tesla is collecting??
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vel0city 482 days ago
1) Tesla has not actually shared real datasets, only cherry picked snippets and highlights.

2) This is only the data Tesla chooses to share, at times when Tesla chooses to share it.

They could have other auditors validate the data. They could release full datasets on regular schedules. They could do a lot of things, but they don't. They give little highlights of results without explaining methodologies. They pick seemingly random timeframes. They're not open with this information in the slightest.

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mbesto 485 days ago
> the data is pretty clear how many people use FSD without issues.

Serious question - what data? And who is supplying that? Tesla? And what is the emotional human equivalent for the level of confidence that we should assume is "safe"? 1% error rate? 0.5%? 0.00001%?

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fredfoobar 483 days ago
who should share the data Tesla is collecting? Tesla? or should some one steal their data and share it?
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