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by dexzod 488 days ago

   Thank you @Tesla for engineering the best passive safety in the world. I walked away without a scratch.
I walked away without a scratch. This could have easily killed an innocent pedestrian or bicyclist. How is this best safety engineering? If the FSD failed there should have been some secondary system to detect an imminent collision and apply brakes.
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Clearly the owner showed that this aspect is not important to them when they ordered the Cybertruck.
The US has no pedestrian safety regulations at all for car design. Some have been proposed but it's 2025 and still nothing enacted.
And with the current administration’s attitude towards consumer protection you’ll never see a meaningful change in safety regulation.
Given the last three weeks, I would expect rules that are actively pedestrian-hostile.
> If the FSD failed there should have been some secondary system to detect an imminent collision and apply brakes.

There actually is. The Automatic Emergency Braking functions separately from FSD and can prevent collisions in some cases. It doesn't work 100% of the time so I wouldn't rely on it, but at least it works as well as or better than competitors' systems.

It ran into a pole… I don’t imagine other cars’ safety systems would fail to brake there
It is passive-aggressive sarcasm. If you say mean things about Tezla on X there is a chance you may be banned/sued/delisted, especially if it involves a crash. So everything has to be couched in false praise. Nobody really thinks the cybertruck does better in a crash than a merc or bmw. Its just something said by the posfer in order to get thier story to a wider audience.
I hope that's the case. It almost read like someone trying to still believe in God right after their mom died.
It does not seem to be the case.

> Big fail on my part, obviously. Don't make the same mistake I did. Pay attention. It can happen. I follow Tesla and FSD pretty closely and haven't heard of any accident on V13 at all before this happened. It is easy to get complacent now - don't.

> I do have the dashcam footage. I want to get it out there as a PSA that it can happen, even on v13, but I'm hesitant because I don't want the attention and I don't want to give the bears/haters any material.

https://x.com/MrChallinger/status/1888546351572726230

Full tweet is below and it doesn't sound like sarcasm. He even says he doesn't want to give the haters ammunition.
>He even says he doesn't want to give the haters ammunition

That part was what made me question if it was real! "Don't want to give the haters ammo" at the tail end of a story about how his $100k pickup truck drove into a lamp post.

What exactly does he think he's doing?

A description and a picture is one thing - a video would be on every news station by the end of the day.
Passive safety is the art of engineering cars so that when they do crash, the occupants are unharmed.

What you're asking for, though, is definitionally impossible: obviously the cameras didn't detect the obstacle, so FSD or no, they can't react to it. The actual solution would be to do what every other car maker with self-driving pretensions does and augment the cameras with LIDAR or other sensors.

> Passive safety is the art of engineering cars so that when they do crash, the occupants are unharmed.

Judging by the (illegal in Europe) design, passive safety is the only safety Cybertruck has, and the safety of others have absolutely zero importance. Fits with how the rest of the world sees the typical American as well, so maybe not a big shocker.

> What you're asking for, though, is definitionally impossible

Why is it impossible for the car to stop (legally obviously) if it fails to merge, or even hit the curb, instead of continue straight forward like nothing happened?

>passive safety is the only safety Cybertruck has

Not even remotely true

Europe's safety is optimized for its environment: mostly narrow, crooked, and crowded streets with a lot of pedestrians. Most use cases for a pickup truck that's only sold in North America are in the part of America where you're much more likely to crash into a tree, deer, fence post, etc than you are a person.
I see lots of SUVs in Europe, which are light-truck sized (and are more often than not built on top of light truck chassis). That plus the preponderance of trucks in US cities suggests to me that it's mostly a cultural and regulatory issue, not a matter of driving environment.
I can't think of a single SUV that is built on top of a chassis on sale in 2025?
Aren't the Wagoneer, Escalade, Yukon and Tahoe all body-on-frame based on a truck chassis?
> Most use cases for a pickup truck that's only sold in North America are in the part of America where you're much more likely to crash into a tree, deer, fence post, etc than you are a person.

Not many trees, deer, fence posts in the Costco parking lot compared to people.

Dunno; last time I was in SF, I saw one of these absurd items (they are even sillier in person), right in the city, lots of people around. If they’re so rural-adapted, perhaps they shouldn’t be allowed enter built-up areas.
Really? Someone should tell all of the suburban and city-dwelling truck owners that.
> Passive safety is the art of engineering cars so that when they do crash, the occupants are unharmed.

Passive safety usually is defined as reducing the risk of injury or death to vehicle occupants in an accident AND also protecting other road users. You left off the second part.