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> You have parent corp UHG who owns the whole vertical

The group’s gross profits are in line with the legal 80/20 rule. And more-integrated models (Kaiser) exist with better satisfaction ratings.

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Even Kaiser is bumping up against resource constraints (at least in Washington). I know quite a few Kaiser employed doctors and insureds, and they all report declining quality.

Edit: I scrolled down and saw someone else say the same:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43016691