[SketchySeaBeast]

Yeah, I expect my next card with be AMD. I'm happy with my 3080 for now, but the cards have nearly double in price in two generations and I'm not going to support that. I can't abide the prices nor the insane power draw. I'm OK with not having DLSS.

[_cenw]

It'll probably be fine for years, longer if you can stand looking at AI generated, upscaled frames. Liftup in GPU power is so expensive, we might as well be back to the reign of the 1080. The only thing that'll move the needle will be a new console generation.

[fsloth]

And 1080 is totally fine at 1920x1080 60fps even with recent games (I see my son enjoying Elden Ring, Helldivers 2 etc with that setup).

[gigaflop]

My 1080 has been running with the same configuration for years. The only thing I consider a downside is the lack of power for exploring AI locally, and AI isn't worth buying a $1234 video card for myself.

[hibikir]

I agree with the prices, but you say you have a 3080, which has a higher max power draw than the 5080 or 4080. Power requirements actually went down

[SketchySeaBeast]

It's true, but to be fair, by the hardware the 5080 is really more of a 70 series cared in previous gens. I was just thinking of the insane top end of the 90 series.

[parineum]

> 5080 is really more of a 70 series

Oft repeated, never explained.

The numbers don't really mean anything and never have. 5080 is faster than the 5070 is faster than the 5060. That's what the number means. The performance gap between tiers isn't and has never been constant.

[xquce]

Often explained, always ignored

https://youtu.be/J72Gfh5mfTk

Everyone who cares to know about generational improvements have indeed compared performance between tiers. No they have never been conctant but the "best" generations clearly had better segmented tiers in their generation compared to prior. Adding "fake" frames to say the 5070 has the performance of the 4090 like Jensen, tells you even Nvidia do this comparison.

[parineum]

> Adding "fake" frames to say the 5070 has the performance of the 4090 like Jensen, tells you even Nvidia do this comparison.

You're missing the point. The only thing that makes a 5080 a 5080 is that's what NVIDIA named it. of course comparisons are going to be made but it's meaningless to expect the numbers to correlate to some specific performance gain over the lower tier or previous generation.

The lineup is different every year. The metric that matters is performance per dollar, not the name of the product.

The 80 tier isn't great value this generation. That doesn't make it really a 5070.

[SketchySeaBeast]

xquce linked a good video explaining why it's a 70 series card, but you don't remember this controversy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_RTX_40_series#RTX_4080...

The only thing that nvidia learned from that was to only offer the smaller version.