[amazingamazing]

Gulf of America is a more inclusive name anyway since both USA and Mexico are part of North America, but since it's Trump everyone hates it. People can't really even articulate what's wrong with it in a vacuum without mentioning Trump.

I don't even like Trump, but this "renaming" is neutral at worst, inclusive at best.

[AlotOfReading]

If you read the executive order, it's not about inclusivity and the term America does not refer to the continent. Quoting the order, it's to "honor the contributions of visionary and patriotic Americans in our Nation’s rich past".

The term "Gulf of Mexico" has been in common use for over 400 years, long before the US was even a thing. No one had a legitimate problem with the name.

[anonfordays]

>it's not about inclusivity and the term America does not refer to the continent.

The last five to ten years of activist similarly told us these things don't matter though. Doesn't matter that "blacklist" or "master" has nothing to do with Black people or slavery. We had to change them to more inclusive terms anyway.

>The term "Gulf of Mexico" has been in common use for over 400 years, long before the US was even a thing.

The exact same was said about "blacklist" and "master", among others.

>No one had a legitimate problem with the name.

Someone did, evidenced by the change. Or are you saying we shouldn't give in to the activists pushing this change? How ironic.

[AlotOfReading]

I also think blacklist and master are silly terminology changes, so I'm not sure what's ironic here.

[amazingamazing]

Luckily in America if someone has serious grievances about this they can choose to vote for a candidate that will revert it. Given the other things Trump is up to, this is a non-issue. The collective time spent discussing it is sad.

[AlotOfReading]

Wasn't your point that "America" is an inclusive term for all of North America? Many of those Americans can't vote in the US even if we accept the absurdity of voting based on naming preferences.

[dc3k]

> Gulf of America is a more inclusive name anyway since both USA and Mexico are part of North America

gulf of america is not more inclusive. the "renaming" was not meant to be inclusive, it was very clearly meant to be divisive.

this is a similar argument to one often used when people call canadians americans: "umm, ackshully, canada is in north america, so it's correct to call them americans"

and of course the flaw in that argument is that literally nobody on earth considers canadians to be americans except people on the internet trying to sound smart.

[anonfordays]

>gulf of america is not more inclusive.

Sure it is. Mexico is not the only country in the Americas that has a maritime border on this body of water.

[amazingamazing]

you make up some argument no one actually makes and point out its flaw? congrats I guess.

[stahtops]

"People hate it" because the motivation for it is xenophobia

[Thuggery]

I don't care about accusations of xenophobia. I don't like it because I don't like pointless historical revisionism. It's been called Gulf of Mexico since the 17th century, before there was a USA.

And I don't like the stink of arbitrary dictators renaming things for ego or propaganda reasons. This is the sort of thing North Korea or Turkmenbashi would do, and I think that's pathetic for America.

[gritspartan]

There are two other countries which have coastlines on the Gulf of Mexico. They are Cuba and Mexico. Neither of them call it the Gulf of America. The name is not inclusive, even when you leave out Trump's intentions.

[anonfordays]

>The name is not inclusive

Sure it is. Mexico is not the only country in the Americas that has a maritime border on this body of water. Gulf of America is a more accurate and inclusive name. In the spirit of inclusivity we should keep it, just like we should keep "blocklist" and "main."

[darknavi]

I'm not sure what "(North) America" means and what Trump thinks "America" means are the same thing.

[amazingamazing]

why does it matter?

[oneeyedpigeon]

Motive matters, this principle is long-established in most Western countries legislatures.

[JumpCrisscross]

It’s annoying. It was annoying when San Francisco school boards were doing it. It’s annoying when Trump does it. The illiberal left and right need to just create their own maps and dictionaries and leave the rest of us alone.

[beart]

The counter reaction is strong as well. I don't agree with this so I must just hate Trump, right? It's a feedback loop in both directions.

Frankly I just think it's a waste of time and energy. I'm referring both to the original action, as well as the continuing ramp up of divisiveness.

[freehorse]

TIL that when Trump was saying "make america great again" he was actually talking about mexico