[itchyouch]

Whenever I come across folk with hEDS-like symptoms, I always like to bring up fluoroquinolone (FQ) antibiotics, as a "btw do you know about this?"

I have a suspicion that some non-trivial amount of the non-genetic EDS folks may suffer from fluoroquinolone antibiotic toxicity.

Among the many effects of FQs is how it can cause a net-loss of collagen in the body. It increases MMPs that breakdown collagen in the body. Part of the reason FQ antibiotics have a black box warning for tendon tearing.

I have a family member that was sure they had hEDS, but it turned out to be FQ toxicity. 20-30 courses over years that would degrade their health, one small bit at a time, unbeknownst to them. While safe for many, for some amount of the population, it can cause what feels like every bodily system slowly failing.

The frustrating bit of it all is how resilient the body is, and most common blood work shows up "normal."

[monkburger]

FQ toxicity is likey caused by SNP in a specific gene related to pharmaceutical metabolism (one of the CYP450s). I believe this was published in the literature.

Another possibility is that FQ toxicity is caused by certain genes relating to detoxifying (GSH, COMT, etc) - where the body incorrectly metabolises it, leading to toxicity against cells.

[itchyouch]

That's great to know.

It's unfortunate that there's an insanely high number of folks in the population that are taking FQs and running into toxicity without any hope of figuring out what is going on with their bodies.

It seems that it would behoove folks to be able to take the test and know whether they are safe candidates to take FQ antibiotics.