[scarab92]

Of course they do, but as a cohort, young men experience substantially more discrimination than young women, because they are being punished for the sins of previous generations.

If you look at the general experiences of a young men, you’ll see that they are discriminated against in university admissions, in early career hiring and in early career promotion.

This is justified by data points which average outcomes over different age groups. The result may be company wide gender balance, but when you break it down by age you see that it’s not really a balance, it’s just discrimination against women in some cohorts and discrimination against men in others.

This is the root problem with DEI. You’re punishing one generation for the actions of a different generation, and pretending that’s fair.

[throwawaydjf]

How else do you fix it? If you leave it alone, the problem will keep persisting because there is no reason to change.

[scarab92]

Understand that discrimination is experienced individually.

You cannot fix the discrimination an individual experiences by discriminating against a different individual in return.

You cannot "balance" the discrimination a group of people experienced in the past, by discriminating against a different group of people today.

Doing so will just result in an oscillation, with men of the past being privileged over women, leading to women of today being privileged over men, leading to men of the future being privileged over women etc.

[gjsman-1000]

Simple.

You stop evil wherever you see it. If you see actively discriminatory practices, kill them.

However, you do not commit an evil, to right another evil. You do not discriminate against anyone, even the over-represented majority, to accomplish any goals, or they can and will one day react violently and probably win.

Fighting fire with fire burns the world down. It’s not a fun answer; people who like being activists and feeling morally superior don’t like being told to stand down, but that’s the only thing that will work.

[bdangubic]

Of course they do, but as a cohort, young men experience substantially more discrimination than young women, because they are being punished for the sins of previous generations.

don’t be silly. insane statements like this you’d have to back with (non-existent) data. so just stop it with this absolute garbage. men, especially white, have every fucking imaginable advantage possible in this country from the time they are born until they are 6 feet under. and of course many find ways to fuck it up and then blame society for it. fucking hell

[dijit]

Men, especially white men, are overrepresented at the extremes.

The worst life available to you in the west is only afforded to white men, you don't even register that they're human.

the best life available to you in the west is only afforded to white men.

Stop trying to promote suffering of the former because of the perceived injustice of the latter, it's sick.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/poverty-hurts-the-boys-th...

[bdangubic]

ouch don't say that ... HN is overrepresented by white men too so you know, this comment won't be taken all too well :)

[bdangubic]

just ask yourself this - if you had say a white son - would you trade that for ANYTHING else given an opportunity? any other skin color? any other sex/gender?

Of course not so sit down until the answer to this question is different (it will never be)

[karmakurtisaani]

Such a strange take on this.

[bdangubic]

how so? if you are a parent you only want the absolute best for your child. so if your child (based on race/sex/...) is apparently discriminated against wouldn't you want what's the best for your child? it is exactly the take that gets to the root of these silly discussions, if your child is X and Y has all these "apparent advantages" wouldn't you want your child to have them?